Business owners have three online concerns:
1. Can people find me online?
2. When they find me, do they trust me enough to call or buy?
3. Am I losing business to a competitor with a stronger online presence?
Visibility
Trust
Competition
Open
▶Goal: Be human. Get them talking about their business.
Call opening:
"Hey [name], this is [you]. Your account came across my desk and I noticed a couple things that might be costing you business online. I'm not sure yet if we can even help, but would you be open to me asking a few questions to find out?"
"Hey [name], this is [you]. The reason for my call — I was reviewing your account and something caught my eye that I wanted to ask you about."
Connecting questions:
"I see you've been a customer since [year] — is that when you started the business?"
"Looks like you registered [domain name] — is that still your main site or have things changed?"
"Tell me about your business — what do you guys do best?"
"I'm not going to pretend I know your business better than you do — but I did notice a couple things on your account that caught my eye..."
"Before I take up too much of your time — what would you say is the biggest challenge with your online presence right now, if any?"
Discover
▶Goal: Surface which problem they have. Pick 2-3 questions — you're looking for a signal, not conducting a survey.
If they HAVE a website:
[V] "Are you getting any leads or calls from your website, or is it pretty quiet on that front?"
[V] "If someone Googles what you do in your area, do you know where you show up?"
[V] "Has anyone ever told you they had trouble finding you online?"
[T] "Do you like what customers see when they pull up your website?"
[T] "When someone lands on your site, what do you want them to do — and is that actually happening?"
[T] "When's the last time you made a change to the site — even something small?"
[C] "Have you noticed any competitors showing up above you when you search for what you do?"
[C] "Do you know what your closest competitor's website looks like right now?"
If they DO NOT have a website:
[V] "How are people finding you right now — word of mouth, social media, something else?"
[V] "When someone hears about you and wants to learn more, where do they go?"
[T] "When someone gets a referral to call you, do they have any way to check you out first?"
[T] "Do people ever ask you for a website and you have to tell them you don't have one yet?"
[C] "When a customer is choosing between you and a competitor, what are they basing that on right now?"
[C] "Are your competitors online? Do you know what their sites look like?"
[C] "Is there a point where not having a site has cost you business to someone who does have one?"
Listen. Note their exact words — you'll feed them back later.
Go deeper — consequence questions
▶"How long has that been going on?"
"What do you think that's costing you?"
"What happens if nothing changes in the next six months?"
Product Map
▶| Problem | Lead With | Add On |
|---|---|---|
| Can't be found | SEO | Hosting upgrade, domain, email |
| Site doesn't build trust | Website Design | Maintenance, SSL, Logo, email |
| Losing to competition | Design + SEO | Maintenance plan, Digital Marketing |
If the signal is unclear
▶"What would make the biggest difference for your business right now — being easier to find, looking more professional online, or keeping up with your competition?"
Solution Awareness
▶Goal: Let them describe the value in their own words.
Visibility → SEO:
"If we could get you showing up in your city when someone searches for what you do — so those people are finding you instead of your competitor — how would that change things for you?"
"And if you could actually see what's working — your rankings, your traffic, every action we take — would that give you the confidence that your money is going to the right place?"
Trust → Website Design:
"If we could build you a professional site that makes people trust your business the moment they land on it — and it's optimized for Google from day one — what would that mean for you?"
"And knowing that businesses with professionally built sites get 2.5x more traffic — what would that kind of increase do for your business?"
Competition → Design + SEO:
"If we could redesign your site so it matches or beats what your competitor has — and start getting you to show up above them on Google — how would that change the game for you?"
"And what would it mean for your business if every month, more of those leads started coming to you instead of them?"
Close
▶Goal: Let them close themselves.
The close:
1. Summarize: "So it sounds like not showing up on Google / your site not converting / your competitor pulling ahead has been costing you for a while. Is that a fair summary?"
2. Solution: "Would it help if we could fix that, or...?"
3. Ownership: "What would you like to do from here?"
4. Commit: "Let's go ahead and get that started for you."
After they commit — the add-on:
[V] "Are you still using a Gmail, or do you have something with your business name?"
[T] "I'll include the Site Maintenance Plan — anytime you need changes, we handle it. Make sense?"
[C] "Should we add Digital Marketing? Social, ads, reviews — everywhere your competitor is."
If they hesitate:
"What specifically are you weighing?"
"When you think about what this problem is costing you right now, how does that compare to the investment?"
"What would need to be true for this to feel like the right move?"
→ "Let me think about it" / Price → "I already have that" → "I've been burned before"
Never argue. Never push. Ask the next question.
If they don't close today
▶"I completely understand. Let me send you a quick summary and I'll check back in a couple days."
Write down: their problem in their words, what you recommended, why they didn't close.
On the callback: "Hey [name], I'm following up on our conversation about [their problem in their words]. Have you had a chance to think about it?"
"I don't know" / "I don't deal with that"
▶"Things are fine" / "I don't need anything right now"
▶"I know there's a problem, but..."
▶"I'm skeptical" / "I've been burned before"
▶"I'm interested" / "Tell me more"
▶"Let me think about it" / Price objections
▶"I don't need a website"
▶"I already have that" / "I'm already paying for that"
▶"No" — The Graceful Exit
▶Leave the door open. The customer who says no today is the customer who calls you back in six months — if you exit with class.
Part 1: What Small Business Owners Actually Care About
▶Business owners have three online concerns:
1. Can people find me online?
2. When they find me, do they trust me enough to call or buy?
3. Am I losing business to a competitor with a stronger online presence?
Everything you sell maps to one of those three. Keep this in mind on every call.
Part 2: The Three Core Conversations
▶Conversation 1: The Visibility Problem → SEO
When customers can't be found online, these are the products that fix it and why:
Conversation 2: The Trust Problem → Website Design / Care
When customers have a site that doesn't convert — or no site at all — these products build trust:
Conversation 3: The Competition Problem → Design + SEO + Urgency
When competitors are winning the customer's leads, these products close the gap:
Part 3: The Call — From Rapport to Diagnosis
▶Small business owners get a lot of sales calls. The ones that work are the ones where the customer feels like the person on the other end actually gives a damn. Your job in the first few minutes isn't to sell anything. It's to be the most human voice they've heard all day.
Step 1: Build Rapport
After your intro, connect first. If you have their account in front of you, reference something specific about their history with us. If you don't, ask something about their business that gets them talking as a person, not a prospect.
Step 2: Discovery
Your job is to surface which of the three problems they have. The questions you ask should do diagnostic work, not just make conversation. The path splits based on whether they have a website or not — each path should point you toward visibility, trust, or competition. By the time discovery is done, you should already have a strong signal.
For customers without a website, also surface infrastructure gaps — no domain, no professional email. These are your add-on opportunities.
The Diagnostic Pivot:
If they have a website: "I want to ask you something real quick — do you know how your website is actually performing right now? Like, whether people are finding it on Google, or how it looks compared to your competitors?"
If they don't have a website: "Can I ask — when someone in your city needs what you do, how are they finding you right now?"
LISTENING IS THE JOB:
Note the specific words they use — "my site looks old," "nobody calls from the web," "my competitor just redid theirs." Feed those exact words back to them later. Nothing builds trust faster than hearing your own words reflected back accurately.
Part 4: The Connection — Let Them Sell Themselves
▶Don't tell the customer what the product does and why it matters. Instead, ask questions that let them discover the value themselves. The more they describe how the solution would help, the more committed they become — before you ever ask for the sale.
The Structure:
Solution Awareness: "If we could [solve the problem they described], how would that change things for your business?"
Let them answer. They just described the benefit in their own words — that's 10x more powerful than you saying it.
Consequence Contrast: "And what happens if this stays the way it is for another six months or a year?"
Let them answer. Now they've described both the upside and the cost of inaction. They've sold themselves.
Example — SEO for a plumber in Dallas:
"If we could get you showing up when someone in Dallas searches for 'plumber near me' — so those people are finding you instead of your competitor — how would that change things for you?"
"And what happens if that doesn't get fixed for another year — how many calls do you think you're missing?"
Example — Website Design for a landscaper whose site looks outdated:
"If we could build you a professional site that makes people trust your business the moment they land on it — what would that mean for you?"
"And knowing that someone is landing on your current site and leaving — what do you think that's costing you every month?"
Part 5: The Close
▶Move 1 — Summarize their words, not yours
"So based on everything you've told me — [restate their problem in their exact words] — and it sounds like that's been [costing them / holding them back] for a while now. Is that a fair summary?"
Wait for the yes. They just confirmed their own problem and its cost.
Move 2 — Solution question (not a recommendation)
"Would it help if we could [solve the specific problem they described]?"
You're asking them if solving their problem would be valuable. They will say yes — because they just spent five minutes telling you it would.
Move 3 — Ownership question
"What would you like to do from here?"
Put the decision in their hands. If they've been answering consequence and solution questions, they already know the answer. Let them say it.
When they hesitate, ask: "What specifically is making you pause?" Let them name it, then go to The Rebuttal Guide.
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